A few years before Manny Marks
(that's how he insisted his name be spelled) died at the
age of 107, he gave a series of long interviews to Barry
Winstead, who was researching a book on the death of
vaudeville. Marks was 103 at the time, in the spring of
1990. This unedited tape was probably never transcribed.
• • • • •
Marks: … I know it was, because I was playing
Conshohocken. Is that thing on? What exactly does it
do?
Winstead: Are you kidding me?
Marks: Those things have been going downhill since the
Dictaphone. How well could that thing record? It's the
size of a pack of Luckies …
Winstead: Trust me, Mr. Marks.
Marks: Mr. Marx was my father, Samuel " Frenchy " Marx.
Call me Manny.
W: Let's start with that, then. Why the name
change?
M: I didn't want my brothers riding my coattails. They
started calling themselves the Four Marx Brothers, after
they quit being the Four Nightingales. Milton—Gummo to
you—got it out of his system early, after Julius—Groucho
to you. Of course, Leo and Arthur had been playing piano
in saloons and whorehouses from the time they were ten
and eleven. You'll have to tell me whether you think
that's show business or not …
W: It's making a living with your talent.
M: Barely.
W: You entered show business when?
M: I was fourteen. Turn of the century. I walked out the
front door and right onto the stage.
W: Really?
M: There was a three- or four-year period where I made a
living with my talent. Like Gene Kelly says, "Dignity,
always dignity." Actually, Comden and Green wrote
that—it just came out of Kelly's mouth. I was in a
couple of acts like the O'Connor/Kelly one at Dead Man's
Fang, Arizona, in that movie.
W: With whom?
M: Whom? You sound like Julius.
W: Would I know any of your partners?
M: In what sense?
W: Would I recognize their names?
M: I wouldn't even recognize their names now. That was
almost ninety years ago. Give me a break.
W: What was the act?
M: A little of everything. We danced a little, One
partner sang a little while I struck poses and pointed.
One guy played the bandoneon—that's one of those
Brazilian accordions with the buttons instead of the
keys. I may or may not have acted like a monkey; I'm not
saying, and I'm pretty sure there aren't any pictures …
W: Gradually you achieved success.
M: Gradually I achieved success.
W: Had your brothers entered show business by then?
M: Maybe. I was too busy playing four-a-days at every
tank town in Kansas to notice. A letter caught up with
me a couple years on from Mom, talking about Julius
stranded in Denver and Milton doing god knows what.
W: Did your mom—Minnie Marx—encourage your career as she
later did those of your brothers?
M: I didn't hang around long enough to find out. All I
know is I wanted out of my home life.
W: Did Al Shean (of Gallagher and Shean) encourage you?
M: Uncle Al encouraged everybody. "Kid, go out and be
bad. Come back and see me when you get good, and I'll
help you all I can." Practical man.
W: Your compatriot George Burns said, "Now that
vaudeville is dead, there's no place for kids to go and
be bad anymore."
M: What about the Fox network?
W: You got him there.
· · · · ·
Winstead: So by now you were hoofing as a single.
Marks: No—I moved a little from the waist up, so it
wasn't, technically, hoofing. To keep people from
watching my feet too much, I told a few jokes. Like
Fields in his juggling act or Rogers with his rope
tricks. Fields used to do a silent juggling bit. He
asked for a raise at the Palace and they said: "You're
the highest-paid juggler in the world." He said, "I
gotta get a new act."
W: I've heard that story before.
M: Everybody has. I'm just giving you the practicalities
of vaudeville. You're the best in the world and you
still aren't getting paid enough, you have to do
something else, too, to get more money. So I was a
dancer and—well, sort of a comic. Not a comic dancer—the
jokes are in your feet, then. My act: the top part told
jokes—the bottom part moved.
· · · · ·
Winstead: What was—who do you think was the best? Who
summed up vaudeville?
Marks: That's two questions.
W: Okay.
M: Who summed up vaudeville? The answer's the standard
one—Jolson, Cantor, Fields, Foy, Brice, Marilyn Miller.
They could hold an audience for ten hours if they'd have
wanted to. And you can't point to any one thing they had
in common. Not one. There are all kinds of being good at
what you do …
W: And the best?
M: Two acts. You might have run across them, since you
write about this stuff for a living. Dybbuk & Wing: a
guy from Canarsie and a guy from Shanghai. Novelty dance
act. And the Ham Nag. A horse-suit act.
W: I've seen the name on playbills.
M: Ever notice anything about that?
W: What?
M: Stick with me and I will astound you later.
W: What, exactly, made them so good?
M: Dybbuk & Wing did, among other things, a spooky act.
The theater lights would go down, and they'd be standing
there in skeleton costumes—you know, black body suits
with bones painted on them. Glowed in the dark. Had a
scene drop that glowed in the dark, too. Burying
ground—trees, tombstones, and so forth. Like in that
later Disney cartoon, what was it?
W: The Skeleton Dance?
M: Exactly. Only this was at least twenty years before.
W: So they were like early Melies—the magician
filmmaker?
M: No. They were Dybbuk & Wing.
W: I mean, they used the phantasmagorical in the act.
What was it like?
M: It wasn't like anything. It was terrific, is
all I can say. You would swear the bones came apart
while they were dancing. I was on bills with them on and
off for years. They were the only act I know of that
never took a bow. The lights didn't come up and they
take their skulls off and bow. No matter how much
applause. The lights stayed down, the two disappeared,
then the lights came back up for the next act. I hated
to follow them; so did anyone with a quiet act. They
usually put the dog stuff and acrobats on after them, if
they had any.
W: Never took a bow?
M: Never.
· · · · ·
Winstead: What about the horse act?
Marks: The Ham Nag?
W: What did it/they do?
M: It was just the best goddammed horse-suit act there
ever was. Or ever could be. I don't know how to begin to
describe it, unless you'd say it was like a cartoon
horse come to life. Right there, live, on the boards.
When you were watching it you felt like you were in
another world. Where there were real cartoon horses.
W: Vaudeville was more varied than people of my
generation think.
M: It was more varied than even my generation
could think. You had to see it.
· · · · ·
Marks: Dybbuk & Wing set the pattern. Wing—the Chinese
guy—never talked. Just like those magicians. Who are
they?
Winstead: Penn & Teller?
M: Just like them. I don't mean just in the act,
like Harpo. I mean, backstage, offstage, in real life.
But I don't think he was a mute, either. I played with
them for years and never heard him speak.
Like, one time backstage—we'd moved up to three-a-days
somewhere—so we had time to kill. It may have been
outside the City of Industry or somewhere. There was
only one deck of cards in the whole place, and it was
our turn to use them between shows.
"Got any Nine of Cups?" I asked.
Wing shook his head no.
"Go Fish," said Dybbuk.
I mean, Wing could have said something if he'd wanted
to. It was just us in the room …
· · · · ·
Marks: Okay, the Ham Nag act was, it was always trying
to get the one blue apple in a whole pile of green and
red ones on a cart. Things kept going wrong. Well,
you've seen films from acts back then, like Langdon's
exploding car. For some reason, this was hilarious. The
Nag made you believe the one goal in its life was to get
that apple.
· · · · ·
Winstead: You said if I stuck with you, you'd drop a
bombshell …
Marks: Oh, you were paying attention, weren't
you?
W: Bombs away.
M: I played with Dybbuk & Wing and the Ham Nag on the
Gus Sun circuit out of Chicago for at least four years.
I think it was at the Arcadia Theater one afternoon when
it suddenly clicked.
You remember I told you to look at those posters in your
collection? You'll notice that on every one—don't take
my word for it—everywhere the Ham Nag played, Dybbuk &
Wing were on the bill …
W: You mean …
M: It took me four years of being on the same bills with
them every day before I figured it out. Yeah,
they were the Ham Nag, too. It did not come out of their
dressing room—they must have changed out in the alleys
or the manager's office or somewhere.
That day I went on, did my act, then watched. Dybbuk &
Wing were on two spots before me, then suddenly the Ham
Nag was on. (The Ham Nag did take four-footed bows and
would milk applause. That's why it was called the Ham
Nag.) It came offstage. I was going to follow; a chorus
girl said something to me; I looked around, and the Ham
Nag was gone.
I went to Dybbuk & Wing's dressing room; they were
there. Wing was writing a letter and Dybbuk was reading
what looked like a two-hundred-year-old book as thick as
a cinder block and just as dusty. Like they'd been there
all the time.
I finally saw them one night, coming back from the alley
after the Ham Nag act. Wing saw me looking at them.
From then on, Dybbuk acted like it was no secret and
that I'd known about it all along.
I'm not telling stories out of school here: few people
remember either act (though they should), and the acts
have been dead half as long as I've been alive. They
were supposed to be in that movie I made (It Goes To
Show You, RKO, 1933, when Manny Marks was
forty-seven years old), but they were "hot on the case"
by then, as Dybbuk said.
· · · · ·
Winstead: What was "the case"?
Marks: Okay. I'm approaching this as an outsider. Ever
read The Waste Land by T.S. Eliot? Julius and
Eliot had a mutual admiration society—they exchanged
photos like International Pen Pals.
W: We had to read it in college.
M: Things will be easier if you go home tonight and read
it again. Anyway, there's all this grail imagery in it,
and other such trayf. Only you have to work
through it, even if you're a Gentile. So where does that
leave me? Julius once gave me a book Eliot took a
lot of stuff from—somebody named Weston's From Ritual
To Romance. All this stuff about a wounded king—like
Frazer's The Golden Bough—look it up.
W: And this has something to do with a horse act?
M: And Dybbuk & Wing's dance act, too. Trust me.
· · · · ·
Winstead: So what you're saying here, at the age of 103,
is that the Apocalypse may have been averted, and we
didn't know it, or something.
Marks: Or something. No. I'm saying there was some kind
of personal Apocalypse ("That which is revealed when the
veil is dropped") involving Dybbuk, Wing, the Ham Nag, a
couple other vaudeville types, maybe the Vatican,
perhaps Mussolini—Stalin and Hitler for all I know …
W: This would have been in …?
M: 1933. When I was making It Goes To Show You.
Why Dybbuk, Wing, and the Ham Nag couldn't be in the
movie.
W: This I'd really like to hear.
M: You will. Hand me that bottle so I can wet my
whistle.
· · · · ·
Marks: Now you've got me drunk.
Winstead: I don't think so, Mr. Marks. I've seen you
drunk.
M: Where?
W: At Walter Woolf King's wake a few years ago.
M: If you were there, you saw me drunk. I was the oldest
drunk there. At my age, I'm the oldest drunk
anywhere.
W: You were going to tell me about the Vatican's and
Mussolini's interest in a vaudeville horse-suit act?
M: Was I?
W: I think so. I can't be sure.
M: Okay. Is that thing still on?
W: Yes.
M: Here goes.
· · · · ·
Marks: Somewhere around 1927, Coolidge years, the
Prohib, vaudeville was already dying. That October would
come Jolson in The Jazz Singer. It wasn't there
yet, but soon the movies would talk, sing, and
dance—everything vaudeville could do, only better,
because they could spend the money, and every film house
could be the Palace, every night.
As I said, you couldn't tell it from The Jazz Singer—cantor's
son in blackface, jumping around like a fool and
disappointing his dad. I saw the play with Jessel back
in '25. Trust me, it was just perfect for the
movies, and more than perfect for Jolson.
But I had seen the end of, as the paper's named,
variety. I knew it as soon as Jolson said "You ain't
heard nothin' yet!"
So did Dybbuk. So did Wing.
We had to get new acts.
So this is the context I'm talking about.
What Dybbuk & Wing did between their acts was read and
write. Wing probably wrote all the letters for them—he
did to me, later—I never saw him actually reading, it
was Dybbuk who always had a book open. Where he got
them, I don't know—maybe they had a secret card, good at
any library anywhere. They only seemed to have one or
two books with them at a time. Carrying a bunch around
in their luggage would have been prohibitive and tiring,
especially on the Sun circuit—if you had it good, you
only moved every three days; no split-weeks, and only in
the relatively bigger towns.
They must have been reading and writing for years before
I ever met them. They were on the trail of something. No
telling who they corresponded with, or what attention
they attracted.
I believe we were playing the Priory Theater in Zion,
Illinois, when Pinky Tertulliano joined the bill. He was
an albino comic acrobat—like that guy on Broadway now?
(1990—ed.)
Winstead: Bill Irwin?
M: That's him. Anyway, since the Flying Cathar Family
was already on the bill, they put him between Edfu Yung
and Dybbuk & Wing. Edfu Yung was a Sino-Egyptian bird
imitator; quite an act. And he threw his call offstage,
like Bergen or Señor Wences. You'd swear the stage flies
were full of birds. I don't know that Yung and Wing ever
talked over their common heritage, since Wing never
talked.
Anyway, Tertulliano—who had a very weird act even for
vaudeville—and I'm not kidding—was off before Dybbuk &
Wing went on, which is the important thing here.
We found out later he'd come straight over from Italy to
the Sun circuit in the Midwest, which was unusual unless
Gus Sun was your uncle or something—usually you played
whatever you could get on the East Coast—unless you were
some real big act brought over by an impresario—Wilson
Mizener once said an impresario is someone who speaks
all languages with a foreign accent—and if that were the
case, what's he doing going on between Edfu Yung and
Dybbuk & Wing in Zion?
Anyway, things went swimmingly for a week or two, and
the whole bill moved to some other town.
I remember things happened on Friday the Thirteenth—it
must have been in May, because a couple of weeks later
Lindy made his hop—Dybbuk & Wing came off and stuff had
been messed with in their dressing room.
Nothing goes through a theater faster than news that
there's a sneak thief around. Suddenly keys are needed
for the locks on the doors, and people watch each
other's places while they're on. Like with the army,
where barracks thieves aren't tolerated; if they're
found, there's some rough justice dealt out. Signs go up
and things get tense.
They never said what was messed with or taken;
they just filed with the theater, Equity, and Gus Sun
himself, and spread the word.
Nobody ever proved anything. Tertulliano left the bill
about the time Lindbergh took off for France. Nobody
else's stuff was ever taken.
Sometime in June, Wing got a letter with lots of odd
stamps and dago-dazzler forms all over it; after he read
it he gave it to Dybbuk, who told me: "Never act on a
bill with Tertulliano; he's trouble."
That's all he said. Fortunately, I nor anyone else ever
had to. Far as I know Pinky left vaudeville and went
back to Italy. Which is strange, since he had such a
good weird act, like the Flying Cathars all rolled into
one.
· · · · ·
Marks: … so I started noticing stuff about both
their acts. Like, in the skeleton dance. I told you
there were glow-in-the-dark tombstones and things. One
was a big sarcophagus, like in those New Orleans
cemeteries. On the side of it was the phrase "Et in
Arcadia ego"—"And I too am in Arcadia" is the usual
translation, and people think it means death, too, was
in pastoral, idyllic settings. I think it was just an
ancient "Kilroy was here," myself.
And the horse-suit act, the Ham Nag. "Why is it always
trying to get a blue apple?" I asked. Like something out
of Magritte. Who ever heard of a blue apple? (Magritte's
favorites were of course green.) Dybbuk didn't say
anything; he just handed me what turned out to be the
thickest, driest book I had ever tried to read in my
life. Honest, I tried.
Wing didn't say anything, of course, he just nodded.
· · · · ·
Marks: A week later I brought the book back to them.
"If this is what you guys do for fun," I said, "I think
you guys should get out to a movie more often, maybe buy
an ice-cream cone.
"You asked," said Dybbuk. "That book explains most of
it."
"That book explains my six-day headache," I said. "It's
like trying to read Spengler. Better than any Mickey
Finn at bedtime. Two paragraphs and I'm sleeping like a
baby."
"Sorry," said Dybbuk.
"Besides," I said, "I came from a whole other
background. I don't even try to keep trayf for
the holidays. I'm not a practicing Jew—much less a
Christian. People really believe that stuff? The fight
between the Catholics and the Freemasons?"
"Some more than others," said Dybbuk. Wing nodded.
"So why put that stuff in the act if it's so important
and so secret?"
And Dybbuk said, "If it's fun, why do it?"
· · · · ·
Marks: I had troubles of my own during all this time, by
the way. They tried to slip me down the bill at the next
tank town. I needed a new act. The comedy was fine; the
dancing and singing never were much, but for vaudeville,
it was a wow.
Then I met Marie, who as you know later became Susie
Cue.
(Like Burns and Allen, Marks and Susie Cue were a double
for the next forty years—in vaudeville, the movie It
Goes To Show You, in radio and television—anywhere
they could work.—ed.)
She was part of a sister act—the only good part.
I laid eyes on her and that was it. I was
forty-one years old in '27, she was maybe twenty. In two
weeks we were a double and her sisters were on the way
back to Saskatoon.
So my extracurricular interests changed dramatically. So
did the finances, thanks to Susie. We became virtually a
house-act on the Keith-Albee circuit and did a couple of
the last (real) Follies before Ziegfeld croaked, and
things got pretty peachy—even with the Crash.
Fortunately, as George S. Kaufmann said, all my money
was tied up in cash, so I came through it okay.
Meanwhile I heard from Julius that my brothers, except
for Milton, were making movies, out in Astoria, of their
stage plays. I wished them lots of luck.
But that was just another indication variety was dying.
I mean, you have a play run for two years on Broadway
and you still gotta make movies to make any more money.
The movies, now that they talked—for a while there they
talked but didn't move much—see Singin' in the Rain
for that—were raiding everything—plays, novels, short
stories, poems, radio—for that matter, radio was raiding
right back—in an effort to get what little money people
still had left. Movies did it all the time for a dime;
vaudeville did it three times a day for fifty cents.
Something had to give.
It was me and Susie Cue, and we went into radio.
Meanwhile, Dybbuk & Wing—I supposed it was Wing—were
writing to us.
· · · · ·
Winstead: So this was …?
Marks: We went into radio in late 1931. So did everybody
else. We'd tried three formats before we found the
right one.
W: My Gal Susie Cue?
M: My Gal Susie Cue. The idea was, it was like
having lizards live in your vest and I tried to deal
with it.
W: Didn't Dybbuk & Wing appear on it?
M: Exactly twice. Tap dance doesn't come across on
radio, especially if there's no patter. Even with a live
audience all you hear are the taps—a sound-effect man
with castanets can do that—and the oohs and
ahhs from the audience.
W: What about the Ham—
M: Even they knew a silent horse-suit act
wouldn't work on radio. That would have to wait for
Toast of the Town on TV, but by then they were gone.
I don't even know if there's any film of the
horsey act. I once asked them how they did it so well.
Dybbuk gave the classic answer I've seen attributed to
other people. He said: "I'm the front of the horse suit,
and I act a whole lot. Wing just acts natural."
· · · · ·
Marks: I'm getting ahead of myself. While we were in the
Follies and they were still out in the sticks, they
wrote me. Letters about other acts, their acts, how bad
variety was getting. I did what I could for them, got
them a few New York gigs, mostly in olios before movies,
that kind of thing. We got together when they were in
town. I think they both had crushes on Susie Cue. (Who
wouldn't?)
Anyway, when they were on the road they wrote me about
their researches, too. It was all too arcane and
esoteric for me (those are my two new words of the week
from Wordbuilder®), but it seemed to keep them happy.
They also made noises about "Pinky types" and "priests
with tommy-guns" which I took at the time to be
hyperbole (my new word from last week), but now
I'm not so sure.
The trouble with paranoia (as Pynchon and others—yes, I
do read the moderns) said, is the deeper you dig, the
more you uncover, whether it's there or not. It's the
ultimate feedback system—the more you believe, the more
you find to believe. I'm not sure, but I think Dybbuk &
Wing may have been in the fell clutch of circumstances
of their own making.
That was about the gist of the letters—I haven't looked
at them since the late '50s—the century's, not mine—in
the late 1950s I was seventy—I was drunk one day and dug
them out of an old White Owl box I keep them in. Susie
Cue came in and found me crying.
"What's the matter, Manfred?"
"Just reliving the glory days," I said.
"These are the glory days," she said. Maybe for
her. She'd just turned fifty.
Anyway, want to jump ahead to where it really
gets interesting?
W: Sure.
· · · · ·
Marks: It was early 1933—the week before FDR was
inaugurated and the week King Kong premiered
(that was something people really wanted to see:
an ape tearing up Wall Street). We were in LA, making
It Goes To Show You. Dybbuk & Wing couldn't make it
and were having their agent return the advance.
I've been in show business for ninety years, and there
are only two reasons for an act not to show up and
giving money back: 1) You're dead; 2) Your partner's
dead. That's it.
I got a confirmation it was them sent the cable.
So no Dybbuk & Wing and no Ham Nag, in their only chance
to be filmed. I was more upset about that than
about the hole in the movie. We had to get two acts for
that—that's why The Great Aerius is in there as a comic
acrobat and Gandolfo & Castell are in as the dance act.
Then we lucked out and got Señor Wences, with Johnny and
Pedro in the box. It was his first American movie. You
haven't seen weird til you've seen Señor Wences in 1933
…
· · · · ·
Marks: Turn that off a minute.
Winstead: Why?
M: I gotta dig up the letter. I'll read it. It's better
than I could tell it.
W: Do you know where it is?
M: Probably it's with the rest. Maybe …
· · · · ·
Marks: Did you like the lunch?
Winstead: God, I'm stuffed. Did you find the
letter?
M: I think it was written on 1933 flypaper or something.
It's pretty brittle. I think the silverfish have been at
it. Yeah, I got it here.
W: Mr. Marks, I want to know exactly how we got off on
this.
M: You asked about vaudeville. This is about
vaudeville.
W: A letter dealing with Christian kook cults is about
vaudeville?
M: You'd be surprised. Both contain multitudes.
W: Please read it to me.
M:
Thursday, March 23, 1933
Dear Knowledge-Seeker (they always called me that):
Sorry about missing the movie deal and (it turns
out) we sure could have used the money. I hope you
understand. Who did you get to replace us? I hope
they turned out boffo.
The easiest way to tell you about it is in order the
way it happened. We got to Yakima on the hottest tip
we'd ever gotten the week of FDR's inaugural. The
tip wasn't about Yakima; it was further west, but
this is the closest big-train passenger depot. We'd
just done the week in Spokane. Coming in on our
heels were the Flying Cathars (you remember them
from the Midwest), who are now in a circus (where
they came from and where they are now back). John
Munster Cathar gave us a letter—an answer to someone
we'd written to from Denver.
Let's say it was the most concrete clue we'd ever
gotten. Our next booking was in six weeks in
Seattle, after we'd supposedly gotten back from
doing your movie in Hollywood. We called our agent
and had him pick up some one-, two-, and
three-nighters between Yakima and Seattle. He cussed
us a blue streak for missing the movie and
having to send the money back. But he got on the
horn and got us enough gigs to cover a month of the
six weeks anyway.
The first was the next day in a place called Easton,
Washington. We went there and did a three-a-day,
both acts. Then we got on a spur-line train off the
B-N and went to a town called Rosslyn. Which is
where we wanted to go in the first place.
An odd thing we noticed as we got there was that
there was a priest waiting at the depot. Who he met
in fact was another priest, both Catholics. The one
he met was young.
Which is strange, since, believe it or not, most of
the priests up here are Orthodox—left over from when
the Pacific Northwest was Russian, and a lot of
Greeks came here around the turn of the century.
Well, we went down to the theater, Rennie's Chateau.
We gave the stagehands the drops for the skeleton
dance, put our trucks and the horse suit in the
dressing room, and asked where we could get
breakfast. They told us a block down.
We walked down there. It was cold. Snow was still
two feet high off the sidewalks; guys came by
talking about how good the salmon run had been last
fall. (The only water we could see was a small creek
that went off back down toward the Yakima River to
the south of us.)
Dybbuk noticed that the two priests were back down
the board sidewalk behind us, walking the same way
we were, talking with animation and blessing people
automatically.
We got to the café, and it was full of lumberjacks,
which they call loggers up here. There was a bunch
of big tables pushed together in the center of the
place, and there were twelve or fifteen of them at
it, and they were putting away the grub like it was
going out of style. There were plates of biscuits a
foot high, and if they had been a family, the guys
with the shortest arms would have starved to death.
We sat at the counter on the stools by the pies and
cakes and such. Dybbuk got coffee, ham, and
scrambled eggs. I got chipped beef on toast, coffee,
and a couple of donuts.
The waitress yelled to the cook, "Adam and Eve.
Wreck 'em. S.O.S. and a couple sinkers. Two battery
acids!"
"Yes, Mabel," yelled one of the cooks, lost in
clouds of steam and smells.
"More gravy over here, Mabel!" yelled half the table
of lumberjacks.
"Eighty-six the gravy," said the cook, "Unless you
wanna wash up. I'm outta big bowls."
"Use that old 'un in the high cabinet," yelled
Mabel.
The cook went back and rummaged around. The
short-order cook moved to his place at the stove;
threw water and flour into the giant skillet the
bacon and ham had been cooking in. With his free
hand he broke six eggs onto the griddle. The main
cook came back, moved exactly into the vacated other
cook's place, and stirred the gravy with a big
ladle.
He put it into a battered old silver server and
passed it through the order-hole to Mabel.
Dybbuk paused with his coffee cup halfway to his
lips, rolled his eyes, and focused back on the
serving bowl.
Wing (me) followed his gaze. The server was what the
ancient Greeks would have called a krater: a
large, shallow bowl with handles on two sides. There
was figurework on the base which extended up the
sides of the bowl—it looked like bunches of grapes.
Wing (that's me) nodded to Dybbuk, rolled his eyes,
and fixed them on the two priests who had come in
and sat down at a window table. They were still
talking away and seemed to be paying no attention to
anything.
Mabel put the bowl down; six or eight hands filled
with biscuits dipped into it and came out with gobs
of gravy.
"I s'pose now you'll be wantin' more biscuits?" she
asked.
"Mmmmff mmmfmmfs," said the lumberjacks.
"Two doz. hardtack!" she yelled to the cooks.
Back at the dressing room, we thought of a plan. We
were going to be at the theater for three days. We
got the manager's bill poster to make up a couple of
cloth banners advertising the bill. Then we pinned
them to both sides of the horse suit. We went out
the side door of the theater and up and down the
main street, which is called First Street—all the
cross-streets are named for states—doing part of the
Ham Nag act. We hit the bank, the five-and-dime, the
firehouse, the Legion hall; we went past the Masonic
Temple across the street from the theater, and of
course the café. We went in and bothered Mabel and
the cooks. We went back through the kitchen, out the
back door, behind the buildings, and back to the
theater.
The young priest, who'd been out in front of the
theater, gawked at us with the rest of the town (we
had quite the little crowd following us down First
Street) but stayed in front of the theater, so we
figured he wasn't waiting for Dybbuk & Wing.
Later, when we walked back to the hotel on
Pennsylvania as ourselves, he followed us as
discreetly as a priest can. When we looked outside
later, he was still there.
At the theater, Dybbuk went out between our act and
the horse act and bought the biggest ceramic bowl
the five-and-dime had—it was at least two feet
across and weighed a ton. We put it in the cemetery
stuff the next performance, leaned it against a
tombstone.
The second day the horse suit made more of a
nuisance of itself in other parts of town (there
were only eight blocks by seven blocks of it,
counting Alaska Alley) but ended again annoying the
customers and the help at the café.
Once again they were watching the theater—this time
the old priest. There was a local-looking kid with
him.
When we left for the hotel (as us), it was the kid
who wandered that way, and it was either him or some
other who stayed outside all night, as far as we
knew.
On the third day we took the ceramic bowl with us—me
(Wing) carrying it inside his part of the suit. It
made for a lumpier horse, I'm sure. After nearly
twenty years we move as one, but Dybbuk has to do
all the navigating. As they say of huskies, only the
lead dog gets a change of scenery.
So we take off down First Street, and even I can
tell we're gathering a crowd as we go along. We do
some shtick with oil cans at the gas station; I
dance around in the back a little, and we move on to
the Western Auto hardware store, and then we go down
to the café.
This time we came in the back door. "Christ!" says
the head cook, "not again!" Dybbuk starts
farting with stuff (the laughter was at the Ham Nag
flipping pancakes with its front hooves) and
rummaging through the cabinets (through the slit in
the side of the suit I [Wing] saw everybody in the
place up against the counter, looking into the
kitchen)—the head cook had taken off and thrown down
his apron and walked out into the restaurant in
disgust, and then—allez oop!—the ceramic bowl
was outside the Ham Nag and the krater was
inside, and everybody applauded as we turned and did
the double-split bow in the middle of the kitchen
floor.
Then we were outside again, at the front door. All I
(Wing) heard was Dybbuk say "Trouble!" and grunt
before something knocked me off my feet. I jerked
back, and some heavy object flattened the suit right
between Dybbuk and me. We jumped up and a fist hit
me in the jaw and I fell down again. A hand came in
the side of the suit and the silver bowl was jerked
out of my hands and was gone.
Then something knocked us down again, and we got up
and opened the suit to make it a fair fight.
We were surrounded by kids dressed as clowns,
including the one I'd seen with the priest. They had
what looked like rubber baseball bats and big shoes.
There was about half the town around them, clapping
and laughing. To them it must have seemed part of
the show—the horse suit set on by jokers and clowns.
The old priest was standing across from us on the
sidewalk, with his hands in his pockets, smiling. He
took his hand out and moved it.
I looked way down First Street, and the young priest
was just turning out of sight two blocks away with
something shiny under his arm.
We got back in the suit and wobbled back toward the
theater, the clowns whacking us with rubber bats
occasionally. But they hadn't been rubber back in
front of the café.
We got back to the dressing room and out of the Ham
Nag suit.
"The priest was giving us a Masonic hand signal,"
Dybbuk said.
Priests don't do that, I (Wing) indicated.
"They do if they're not just priests," Dybbuk said.
• • • • •
We figured, like you did years ago, the kid had
doped out we were the Ham Nag too, and the priests
laid a plan for us. I'm not sure they knew what we
were doing, but someone saw through our misdirection
and kept his eye on what was going on.
As Barrymore said, "Never work with kids or dogs."
• • • • •
We almost had it, Knowledge-seeker. Now we'll have
to start all over again. After all this time, what's
a few years more? I mean, the thing has been around
for at least one thousand nine hundred and three
years …
Here's hoping you and Susie Cue are in the pink of
health. We'll be here in Seattle at the Summit on
Queen Anne Hill from Thursday til the end of next
month. Heard your radio show last week; it was a
pip.
Yours in knowledge-seeking,
Dybbuk & me (Wing)
· · · · ·
Winstead: Can you still talk, after reading all that?
Marks: I think so, after I get some of this stuff down.
(drinks) There, that's better.
W: I don't know what to say. That was a long session. I
don't want to wear you out. Will you feel like talking
tomorrow?
M: I think so. You wanna hear about the radio show
tomorrow?
W: Whatever you want to talk about. Do you think they
ever got it?
M: Got the gravy bowl?
W: The thing they were looking for.
M: Your guess is as good as mine.
· · · · ·
Manny Marks, the last of the Marx Brothers, died
three years later at the age of 107. Barry Winstead's
book—I Killed Vaudeville—was published by Knopf
in 1991. Luke H. Dybbuk died in 1942; John P. Wing is
still alive, though he retired from performing in the
early years of WWII.
The End
Dedication
Thanks, Ms. Emshwiller; and Mikes, Walsh and Nelson.
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